Super 12, 2005

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Check out SA S-12 squads just announced. 30 strong though teams other than Bulls have a few to return from injury etc.........Some surprises and now 8 players of colour required in each!!....from superrugby.co.za...........by Dan Retief  
 
Posted on 17 January 2005 - 17:44

Former Springbok tighthead prop Marius Hurter was one of a number of surprises contained in the four South African squads for the 2005 Vodacom Super 12 competition named on Monday.
SA Rugby released the names of 108 players who will do duty for the Bulls, the Cats, the Sharks and the Stormers when the tournament kicks off on Friday, February 25.

The Bulls were the only one of the four franchises to name a complete squad of 30 players with the other three announcing groups of 26 players to allow coaches room to manoeuvre with injured players who might be able to return in time.

Hurter’s unexpected return from the wilderness is probably due to injuries that have struck down Springbok props Os du Randt and Gurthro Steenkamp.

The former Blue Bull was a member of the 1995 World Cup squad and won 13 test caps before joining the exodus of South African players who sought pastures new in England.

He joined Newcastle in the English premiership and will be joined in the Cats squad by another prodigal son in fellow Bok Ollie le Roux; the former Sharks loosehead having been offered a chance to redeem himself by Chester Williams after falling out with Natal.

Another Springbok prop, the oft-injured Faan Rautenbach, finds himself back in the Stormers’ squad.

Some other interesting switches see Lions’ Boks Gcobani Bobo and Dean Hall moving from the Cats to the Sharks; Ricardo Loubscher joining the Bulls from the Sharks and the like of Dewey Swartbooi (exchanging the Bulls for the Cats), Tonderai Chavhanga (Stormers) and Butch James (Sharks) returning to action.

New Springbok Solly Tyibilika, after the raised eyebrows caused by his exclusion from the Natal training squad, has duly been included in the official Sharks squad.

The biggest shock in the four squads is the absence of Cheetahs flyhalf Willem de Waal.

The final four squads of 30 must be confirmed with Sanzar by February 4.

Johan Prinsloo, MD of SA Rugby, said that each of the final squads would contain eight black players, the most ever at this level.

This had been decided at a meeting in Johannesburg on January 10 that was attended by the deputy president of SA Rugby, the national coach, the national selectors and coaches of each of the four regional teams.

Prinsloo described this as an important step for SA Rugby. "The Vodacom Super 12 competition is an international competition where our players' skills are tested against the very best of Australia and New Zealand.

"At this meeting it was decided that all contracted players and those earmarked for national selection will be tested for conditioning and vision skills. Their progress will be monitored throughout the season.

"I am also thankful to the Sharks who agreed to include a player like Solly Tyibilika although he had moved out of their region to another province," said Prinsloo.

BULLS

ADAMS Heini
BANDS Richard
BOTHA Bakkies
BOTHA Ettienne
BOTHA Gary
BROSNIHAN Warren
COETZEE Danie
CRONJÉ Jacques
DEMAS Danwel
DLULANE Tim
DU PREEZ Fourie
HABANA Bryan
HOUGAARD Derick
HUMAN Andries
LAUBSHER Ricardo
LENSING Kees
LEONARD Anton
MAMETSA John
MATFIELD Victor
NDUNGANE Akona
NEL JP
OLIVIER Wynand
PASSENS Gavin
ROETS Johan
ROSSOUW Danie
ROUX Wessel
STEYN Morné
VAN SCHOUWENBURG Francois
VERMEULEN Ruan
WANNENBURG Pedrie BOOI Chumani

CATS

BRITS Schalk
CLAASENS Michael
DROTSKÉ Naka
DU PLOOY Boela
FOURIE Jaque
FREDERICKS Eddie
GILFILLAN Gordon
GROBBELAAR Cobus
HURTER Marius
JANTJES Conrad
JULIES Wayne
LE ROUX Ollie
MULLER Jorrie
PIETERSE Barend
POWELL Neil
PRETORIUS André
SEPHAKA Lawrence
SMITH Juan
STOLTZ Willem
SWARTBOOI Dewey
VAN BILJON Lukas
VAN DER LINDE Christoffel
VAN HEERDEN Wickus
VOSLOO Gerhard
WILLEMSE Ashwin

 
  SHARKS

  BADENHORST Skipper
BOBO Gcobani
BOTHA Brendon
BREEDT Nico
BRITZ Warren
COETZEE Eduard
DAVIDSON Craig
DU PREEZ Wian
GOUWS Jaco
HALL Dean
HALSTEAD Trevor
IMMELMAN Braam
JACOBS Adrian
JAMES Butch
KOKOALI Tsepo
MENTZ Henno
MULLER Johan
NDUNGANE Odwa
NXUMALO Sandile
PIENAAR Ruan
RUSSELL Brent
SAAYMAN Danie
SMIT John
TYIBILIKA Solly
VAN DEN BERG Albert
VENTER AJ
 
 STORMERS

  ANDREWS Eddie
BADENHORST Adri
BARNARD Pat
BARRY De Wet
BRITZ David
BRITZ Gerrie
BURGER Schalk
CHAVHANGA Tonderai
CONRADIE Bolla
DAVIDS Quinton
DE KOCK Neil
DE VILLIERS Jean
DIXON Pieter
DU TOIT Gaffie
GREEFF Werner
JOUBERT Marius
OLCKERS Riaan
PAULSE Breyton
RAUTENBACH Faan
ROSSOUW Chris
SECONDS Egon
SHIMANGE Hanyani
SKEATE Ross
THERON Gus
VAN NIEKERK Joe
WATSON Luke



      I'll leave NZ & OZ to you unless anyone can't find them!

                       Cheers,  Baz   ..... Warming Up!

[the red army]

Thanks Baz.

Damn interesting squads !! That colour component is an interesting one. With some of those teams it won't be an issue, but others (like the Bulls) it may be.

Cheers

[EREHWON WARRIORS]

    Injuries &  Bargains in S-12 2005


Have tried to make a list of injuries etc within the last week from all teams using several sites to help with selections this week.......some are minor and could be selected later in week but others are more long -term  

 My policy is not to use a player under an injury cloud or returning after an op but others may differ....however, we are spoilt for choice after 6-N!

Bargains of course will depend on selection!

Please add more news to confirm or deny this list ....will add selected teams as they become available

                        Injury                    Bargain

Blues              Howlett                   McDonald
                      Spencer                   Williams
                      Atiga                        McAlister
                      Woodcock                Nacewa
                      Kaino                       Wulff

Brumbies        Larkham                  Chisholm
                      Smith                        Tawake

Bulls               Leonard                    Habana
                      Lensing                     Nel
                      Spies                         Laubsher

Cats               Jantjes                      Fredericks
                      Hurter                        Julies
                      Le Roux
                      Verster
                      Drotske
                      Stoltz

Chiefs             Willis                         Lutui
                       Robinson                  Ormond
                       Sivivatu                     McQuoid
                       Manu                         Anesi
                      (more?)                      Hohneck

Crusaders       Hamilton                   Koonwaiyou
                       McDonald(late)          Delasau
                       Feek                          Kopelani
                       Maxwell                     Filipo
                       Marshall                    Nutbrown
                       Tui'ali'i                       Leo'o

Highlanders    Petersen                    Horton
                       Tuitavake                   Brew
                       Evans                         Bourke
                       Schwalger                  Ryan

Hurricanes       Flutey                        Gopperth
                        Collins                       Waldrom T or S
                        Hore                          Ward
                        Andrews                    Kennedy

Reds                Latham                      Brock
                        Flatley                       Pelesasa
                        Croft                          Heenan
                        Tune
                        Atkinson
                        Kefu
                        Huxley
                        Mitchell
                        Valentine

Sharks             Venter                       Muller
                                                         Hall
                                                         Mentz

Stormers          Roussouw C             Seconds
                                                         Chavhanga

Waratahs         Rogers(?)                 Shepherd

                    Cheers,
                       Baz  

[Kobe]

Thanks for that EW, here are some other players that I feel for their price are very attractive to the Fantasy eye.

Chiefs - Tagicakibau

Canes - Weepu, still can't get over how cheap he is.

Saders - O'Neill

Brumbies - Fairbanks and Joel Wilson, one has to start?

Tahs - Palu and Hoiles, either will start at 6, although I have seen somewhere Palu has a minor injury.

Reds - Vedelago

Bulls - Gary Botha is cheap for a hooker

Cats - de Waal

Sharks - Solly Tyibilika. How did you miss Solly out EW?

Stormers - de Villiers is extremely cheap for his talent.
I also believe that Chavanga is under a injury cloud. He apparently was concussed in the last Stormers preseason game last weekend, so that may come into calculations for the first game.

cheers, Kobe

In the 2005 Rugby News preview they have Rua Tipoki listed under the Blues, anybody know about this?

[EREHWON WARRIORS]

Rua Tipoki is one of those extra 7 named by each franchise as back up ...I think Orks wanted cover in case a certain midfield back was whisked away to answer a summons..........about which I 've heard no more...ANYONE know?  

Interesting array you've added Kobe ...didn't look further than surface when collecting injury lists......

I see Larkham , Smith & Collins got through game in Canberra OK (won by Brumbies 33-26 after Canes led most of the way. Brumbies drew level with10 to go and Bernie scored a classic to put us away before time) but Matt Gitteau is out for 3-4 weeks with a broken hand .......maybe Mortlock will be kicking for them again in interim?
                     
               Cheers, Baz  

[Kobe]

Frier before Cannon and Palu at 6 for the Tahs this week.

HSBC WARATAHS TO PLAY THE CHIEFS (NZ) AT AUSSIE STADIUM, FRIDAY, 25 FEBRUARY 2005. KICK-OFF AT 7.40PM

 

Matt Dunning
Adam Freier
Alastair Baxter
Justin Harrison
Daniel Vickerman
Wycliff Palu
Phil Waugh
David Lyons
Chris Whitaker [c]
Lachlan MacKay  
Lote Tuqiri
Shaun Berne
Morgan Turinui
Peter Hewat
Mat Rogers
BENCH

 

Brendan Cannon
Gareth Hardy
Alex Kanaar  
Rocky Elsom
Chris O'Young  
Nathan Grey
Winston Mafi  
Stephen Hoiles

[EREHWON WARRIORS]

Thanks, Kobe!  

What's your read on Rogers form....is he going to have anything like the form he showed before his injury?

What do you know of Palu?....what Oz site do you prefer...Rugby Heaven?

Cannon?...from no. 1 to 3 or 4 in 12 months!        

I'm swotting SA form from superrugby at the moment......might get on to OZ tomorrow  

              Cheers,
                  Baz  

[Kobe]

Rogers sounds like he will be in the same form he was last year before his injury.

There lots of word out about Freier too, in that he is better than Cannon, good choice at TR.

As for Palu, you probably know as much as me, but he sounds like a Lauaki.

As for sites, normally go straight to their team pages in Aussie, as for SA, I generally stick with

www.rugby365.com

or their team pages as well.

www.thebulls.co.za
 
www.thestormers.com
 
www.catsrugby.co.za
 
www.sharksrugby.co.za

Cheers, Kobe.
 

[EREHWON WARRIORS]

Good man .(+1k again) Had a look at Rugby 365 but still prefer superrugby in format.

Have asked xtrasport rugby(DJ) to publish S-12 teams as they did last year for us...as super rugby did too so here's hoping  

Have learnt that Smit will probably only come off bench for Sharks(hammy)and that van der Berg may keep Tibylika on the bench as he has found a new lease of life. Seems likely that Venter will start at lock,too.

I think SA teams when they play each other are worth tries & good  pts 'cos scores are like BB scores if the right players are targetted

             Cheers
               Baz  

[Kobe]

Van Den Berg is a Lock, so don't think he will replace Solly.

Venter has been left out of the Sharks final squad annouced, because of injury.

Where do you get your info from EW.

[EREHWON WARRIORS]

Sorry, Kobe...... it was my reading skills ...Jacques Botes could keep Solly on the bench they say ....I forgot they name their entire back row first before tight five ....not like ours split on either side of our locks! .......just as well you put me right!

             Hope this rambling betwen Kobe & I helps TRA et al  

         Cheers, Baz  

[the red army]

Yeah thanks lads great reading so far

I have been waylaid and need to do some hard study this week...  will get back to you with my ideas. There are lots of injuries, bargains and choices...my head hurts !!!

Cheers

TRA

[EREHWON WARRIORS]

S12 Line-Ups For Round One

7:35pm Fri 25 Feb Highlanders v  Blues from Carisbrook, Dunedin  
 
HIGHLANDERS: 15 Ben Blair, 14 Neil Brew, 13 Anthony Tuitavake, 12 Seilala Mapusua, 11 Matt Saunders, 10 Cameron McIntyre, 9 Jimmy Cowan;
8 Paul Miller, 7 Josh Blackie, 6 Craig Newby (v-c), 5 James Ryan, 4 Filipo Levi, 3 Carl Hayman, 2 Anton Oliver (c), 1 Carl Hoeft. Reserves: 16 Mahonri Schwalger, 17 Clarke Dermody, 18 Hoani MacDonald, 19 Colin Bourke, 20 Danny Lee, 21 Jason Shoemark, 22 Ryan Glover.

BLUES: 1 Saimone Taumoepeau, 2 Keven Mealamu, 3 John Afoa, 4 Greg Rawlinson, 5 Ali Williams, 6 Angus MacDonald, 7 Daniel Braid, 8 Xavier Rush (c), 9 David Gibson, 10 Carlos Spencer, 11 Joe Rokocoko, 12 Sam Tuitupou, 13 Luke McAlister, 14 Isa Nacewa, 15 Malili Muliaina. Reserves: 16 Derren Witcombe, 17 Taufa'ao Filise, 18 Justin Collins, 19 Nick Williams, 20 Steve Devine, 21 Tasesa Lavea, 22 Rudi Wulf.

9:40pm Fri 25 Feb Waratahs v  Chiefs from Aussie Stadium, Sydney, OZ

WARATAHS: Mat Rogers, Peter Hewat, Morgan Turinui, Shaun Berne, Lote Tuqiri, Lachlan MacKay, Chris Whitaker (c), David Lyons, Phil Waugh, Daniel Vickerman, Justin Harrison, Wycliffe Palu, Alistair Baxter, Adam Freier, Matt Dunning. Reserves: Stephen Hoiles, Winston Mafi, Nathan Grey, Chris O'Young, Rocky Elsom, Alex Kanaar, Gareth Hardy, Brendan Cannon.

CHIEFS: 1 Simms Davison, 2 Aleki Lutui, 3 Deacon Manu, 4 Jono Gibbes, 5 Sean Hohneck, 6 Wayne Ormond, 7 Marty Holah, 8 Steven Bates, 9 Byron Kelleher, 10 David Hill, 11 Sailosi Tagicakibau, 12 Grant McQuoid, 13 Mark Ranby, 14 Sosene Anesi, 15 Loki Crichton. Reserves: 16 Scott Linklater, 17 Ben Castle, 18 Bernie Upton, 19 Sione Lauaki, 20 Kevin Senio, 21 Stephen Donald, 22 Adrian Cashmore.

5:05 am Sat 26 Feb Stormers v  Sharks from Newlands,Cape Town ,SA

STORMERS: 15. Werner Greeff, 14. Breyton Paulse, 13. Marius Joubert, 12. De Wet Barry, 11. Jean de Villiers, 10. Gaffie du Toit, 9. Neil de Kock (Captain), 8. Johann van Niekerk, 7. Schalk Burger Jnr, 6. Luke Watson, 5. Gerrie Britz, 4. Quinton Davids, 3. Faan Rautenbach, 2. Pieter Dixon, 1. Eddie Andrews

Replacements: 16. Hanyani Masana Shimange, 17. Riaan Olckers, 18. Robin (Rob) Linde, 19. Adri Badenhorst, 20. Johannes Conradie, 21. Gus Theron, 22. Siyabonga (Tiger)(SA) Mangweni  

SHARKS: 15. Brent Russell, 14. Odwa Ndungane, 13. Trevor Halstead, 12. Gcobani Bobo, 11. Dean Hall, 10. Butch James, 9. Craig Davidson, 8. Jaco (Willem Jakobus) Gouws, 7. Braam Jacobus Abraham Immelman, 6. Louis (Jacques) Botes, 5. Albert van den Berg, 4. Nico Breedt, 3. Brendon (BJ) Botha, 2. Skipper Badenhorst, 1. Eduard Coetzee

Replacements: 16. John William Smit, 17. Daniel Strydom (Danie) Saayman, 18. Charl van Rensburg, 19. Solomzi Tyibilika, 20. Ruan Pienaar, 21. Rudi Keil, 22. Jacques Schutte

8:55 pm Sat 26 Feb Brumbies v  Crusaders from Canberra Stadium, Canberra, OZ  

BRUMBIES: Mark Gerrard, Clyde Rathbone, Stirling Mortlock (c), Gene Fairbanks, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Stephen Larkham, George Gregan, Scott Fava, George Smith, Mark Chisholm, Radike Samo, Owen Finegan, Guy Shepherdson, Jeremy Paul, Nic Henderson. Reserves: David Palavi, David Fitter, Alister Campbell, Tamaiti Horua, Matt Henjak, Sam Norton-Knight, Lenny Beckett.

CRUSADERS: 15 Daniel Carter, 14 Rico Gear, 13 Casey Laulala, 12 Aaron Mauger, 11 Caleb Ralph, 10 Andrew Mehrtens, 9 Justin Marshall, 8 Sam Broomhall, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 Reuben Thorne, 5 Ross Filipo, 4 Chris Jack, 3 Campbell Johnstone, 2 Corey Flynn, 1 Greg Somerville. Reserves: 16 Tone Kopelani, 17 Dave Hewett, 18 Kevin O'Neill, 19 Same Harding, 20 Jamie Nutbrown, 21 Vilimoni Delasau, 22 Leon MacDonald.



11 pm Sat 26 Feb Reds v  Hurricanes from Ballymore, Brisbane , OZ    

                          TEAMS TBA

1:55 am Sun 27 Feb Cats v  Bulls Ellis Park, Johannesburg

                           TEAMS TBA



          Cheers,  Baz  

[the red army]

Thanks Baz...

So many players !!! So many teams !!!!  

I am going through trying to pick players who will stay the distance. Don't forget the teams have byes mid way through (Weeks 5-6 and 8-9). In TR we can't buy replacements so work it out carefully lads

TRA

[EREHWON WARRIORS]

THE FINAL FOUR TEAMS from ABOVE!!

11am Sat 26 Feb REDS v HURRICANES from Ballymore, Brisbane, OZ

REDS:                      TBA  ..........best is squad of 22 with questions over fitness of Latham, Valentine!  

Backs: Elton Flatley (c), Josh Valentine, Nic Berry, Julian Huxley, Steve Kefu, Drew Mitchell, Junior Pelesasa, Peter Hynes, Wendell Sailor, Chris Latham.

Forwards: Nick Stiles (vice-captain), Greg Holmes, Anthony Mathison, Sean Hardman, Stephen Moore, Rudi Vedelago, Hugh McMeniman, Nathan Sharpe, Daniel Heenan, David Croft, Tom McVerry, John Roe.

HURRICANES:

1 Joe McDonnell, 2 Andrew Hore, 3 Neemia Tialata, 4 Ross Kennedy, 5 Paul Tito, 6 Jerry Collins, 7 Ben Herring, 8 Rodney So'oialo; 9 Piri Weepu, 10 Jimmy Gopperth, 11 Hosea Gear, 12 Tana Umaga (c), 13 Ma'a Nonu, 14 Lome Fa'atau, 15 Brent Ward. Reserves:16 Joe Ward, 17 Tim Fairbrother, 18 Kristian Ormsby, 19 Chris Masoe, 20 Isaac Boss, 21 Tane Tu'ipulotu, 22 Conrad Smith.

1:55am Sun 27 Feb CATS v BULLS from Ellis Park, Johannesburg, SA

CATS:    

Conrad Jantjes, Ashwin Willemse, Jorrie Muller, Wayne Julies, Jaque Fourie, André Pretorius, Michael Claassens, Juan Smith, Wikus van Heerden (Captain), Cobus Grobbelaar, Barend Pieterse, Boela du Plooy, Marius Hurter, Schalk Brits, Ollie Le Roux.

 Reserves: Rich Verster, CJ van der Linde, Gordon Gilfillan, Hendro Scholtz, Neil Powell, Tiaan Snyman, Chumani Booi.

BULLS:

15. Johan (Blue Bulls) Roets, 14. Ricardo Ian Peter Loubscher, 13. JP Nel, 12. Ettienne Botha, 11. Bryan Gary Habana, 10. Derick Hougaard, 9. Fourie du Preez, 8. Pedrie Wannenburg, 7. Warren Brosnihan, 6. Jacques Cronje, 5. Victor Matfield (Captain), 4. John Botha, 3. Richard Edward Bands, 2. Gary Botha, 1. Kees Lensing

Replacements: 16. Danie Coetzee, 17. Wessel Roux, 18. Francois van Schouwenburg, 19. Danie Rossouw, 20. Heinrich Jaco (Heinie) Adams, 21. Kennedy Tsimba, 22. Akona Ndungane

Sorry we haven't final teams for REDS !!!

. These coaches are rather frustrating at times!
          Must away and start my own selecting!  

Hope this has helped!  

            GL for round 1 ALL RH!!!

                                    Cheers,
                                       Baz