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« on: July 01, 2003, 05:24:08 PM » |
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I don't know much about the rivalry that exists between the Aucklanders vs Canterbury as a Aussie fan. I know that QLD vs NSW in union, has a 100 years or more of fierce rivalry. How long the Auckland vs Canterbury last? Is there any meaning apart from claming being the best side in NZ between these two sides have met. What's the head to head statistic between these two anyway?
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2003, 07:36:21 PM » |
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i think its everyone against auckland ...  |
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2003, 08:29:25 PM » |
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i think its everyone against auckland ... Agree ... until you go overseas and realise it's more important to be a Kiwi than it is to support any particular province. |
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2003, 10:25:42 PM » |
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I don't know much about the rivalry that exists between the Aucklanders vs Canterbury as a Aussie fan. I know that QLD vs NSW in union, has a 100 years or more of fierce rivalry. How long the Auckland vs Canterbury last? Is there any meaning apart from claming being the best side in NZ between these two sides have met. What's the head to head statistic between these two anyway?
Heres a bit about it, as you can see it has been going on for a long time aswell.  For much of Auckland's History one team has produced some superb games of rugby, especially when that mighty log of wood, the Ranfurly Shield was at stake. That team is Canterbury.
A 1910 cliff-hanger had Auckland behind on the scoreboard with just 2 minutes to play they squeaked in with a last gasp try to win 6-4, scoring 2 tries to a solitary drop goal (tries being worth 3 points in those days and drop goals being worth 4 points).
During a game in 1950 with only 60 seconds to play, Auckland were just four point's behind and a scrum was called inside Canterbury's 22 yard line. Canterbury had the loosehead feed and with the All Black's hooker playing for Canterbury the game was as good as dead, or so the Auckland faithful thought. Miraculously Auckland got a tighthead and during a hectic finale Waka Nathan scooped up a loose ball and ran under the posts, with Mike Cormack kicking the conversion to give Auckland a nail biting victory. Auckland in a 1996 Ranfurly Shield defence would beat the Bay of Plenty in almost the same circumstances by winning a tighthead in injury time scoring a try right by the corner flag and kicking the conversion to beat the Bay.
Again in the 1980's this fierce rivalry was re-ignited when Canterbury, on the verge of eclipsing the record for shield defences, played Auckland at a packed Lancaster Park in a match described by many who watched it as the greatest shield game ever. Auckland completely overwhelmed Canterbury in the first half to take a seemingly insurmountable lead into the break. Canterbury coach and later All Black coach Alex "Grizz" Wylie gave one of his rightly great half time team talks which saw Canterbury nearly win the game in the dying seconds as Canterbury returned, with relish, the points that Auckland had so easily scored in the first half.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2003, 12:36:55 AM » |
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Well, everyone against Auckland, heh!  I thought there was something special about the rivalry whenever these two teams have met that stood apart from the rest of the other Kiwi derbies or contests. And most of the commentators and fans do mention these two that they hated each other quite alot and that it goes on and say there are 13 Canterbury players and Auckland have 2 in the All Black squad etc... etc... You know what I mean? |
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2003, 09:22:57 AM » |
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The Auckland vs Canterbury rivalry has been long standing. None of the other provinces particularly likes either of them, and the most hated is usually the most recently successful. Of late the anti-Auckland sentiment still around from their success in the 80s and early 90s has swung towards Canterbury somewhat. But there is something about that Auckland Remuera attitude that winds the rest of the Country up. I remember there was once a doco on TV called JAFAs (Just Another Fucking Aucklander), discussing (in a fairly tongue-in-cheek way) the whole anti-Auckland feeling in the country. A posh sounding Auckland woman was upset that people should feel that way, stating she never gave anyone south of Auckland a thought. Need I say more??? As a Cantab, there is no team I hate losing to more than Auckland. It totally sucks. I'd rather lose to Wellington twice, or Otago three times. And we hope the Aucks feel the same way about us.  Cheers! Wobbly. |
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2003, 08:04:41 PM » |
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Do the Kiwi fans still enjoyed seeing the All Blacks with a mix of Aucklanders and Canterbarians or is it still a big issue then? I guess the Wallabies don't have that sort of problem with a mix of QLD and NSW or ACT players playing together as a national team.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2003, 09:52:23 PM » |
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i'd prefer the all blacks with a mix of christian cullen...
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2003, 07:23:46 AM » |
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3me - why are you asking this?
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2003, 07:19:24 PM » |
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I guess I have been over the top but hey I'm just curious to know, that's all!
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2003, 07:57:42 PM » |
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A classic Auckland v Canterbury debate that's been going on since 1996 - who is better? Merhtens or Spencer? You'd be hard pressed to find an Aucklander who would prefer Merhts, and you'd find it equally tough to find a Cantab who prefers Carlos. On the head to head I'd imagine that Auckland would be way out in front. Not as far out in front as the head to head of Auckland vs Wellington though - the Hurricanes have yet to beat the Blues in the S12's 8 year history, and before the 2000 semi-final victory at Eden Park I think it was something like 22 years since Wellington last won up there. Scary. Let's hope I don't have to wait until 2022 until the next time!  Basically I think all the provinces' fans would say their favourite wins have come against Auckland - sort of in the same way that Ireland, Scotland and Wales love to beat England. The trouble is that it doesn't happen enough! |
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2006, 03:08:14 PM » |
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A classic Auckland v Canterbury debate that's been going on since 1996 - who is better? Merhtens or Spencer? You'd be hard pressed to find an Aucklander who would prefer Merhts, and you'd find it equally tough to find a Cantab who prefers Carlos. On the head to head I'd imagine that Auckland would be way out in front. Not as far out in front as the head to head of Auckland vs Wellington though - the Hurricanes have yet to beat the Blues in the S12's 8 year history, and before the 2000 semi-final victory at Eden Park I think it was something like 22 years since Wellington last won up there. Scary. Let's hope I don't have to wait until 2022 until the next time! Basically I think all the provinces' fans would say their favourite wins have come against Auckland - sort of in the same way that Ireland, Scotland and Wales love to beat England. The trouble is that it doesn't happen enough! Carlos gets booed everytime he plays at Jade even when it was for the All Blacks but Mehrts seemed to get cheers where ever he played. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2006, 04:04:30 PM » |
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Good grief - recalling a 3 year old thread! I can't even remember who "Spencer" & this guy "Mehrts" actually are?! cheers DH |
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2006, 04:55:42 PM » |
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I used to support Canterbury but now I support Auckland. I cannot handle the Crusader culture proliferating the All Blacks works at super rugby level will not work at world cup level. Proof is in the pudding.
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I guess that it was just not meant to be.
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2006, 05:39:55 PM » |
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I used to support Canterbury but now I support Auckland. I cannot handle the Crusader culture proliferating the All Blacks works at super rugby level will not work at world cup level. Proof is in the pudding.
Auckland proliferation didn't win us the 1991 World Cup either. 1995 wasn't shit hot either. cheers DH |
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