megweya
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« on: October 05, 2011, 01:27:17 PM » |
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The link is to the sort of profile of the Irish players that would be in a matchday programme if written by a fan on the way out of a long lunch in the pub just before the game ... Ronan O’Gara:
Many people have said nasty things about O’Gara
but in his defence he’s always had the perfect comeback:
1039 points!
O’Gara is like a custom video game character who
put all his points into kicking power and accuracy
but didn’t have enough left over to cover running or tackling.
The Cork man may not be able to tackle or carry the ball but to
be completely fair to him it’s hard to do either of those things when
you have a fucking sniper rifle instead of a leg.
and captions this pic with
Sean O'Brien:
This is actualy a fair fight
 I say Ireland to win by a score. Cheers Megweya |
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Donnacha: "God grant me the serenity to accept things that I cannot change . . ."
Reflecting later: "It meant the world to me, but I took no satisfaction from the way we won it.
I would have rather been on our own line, defending like dogs. I didn't want to celebrate Stephen Jones missing a kick"
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 05:41:54 PM » |
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Well the Irish side is
Ireland (15-1): Robert Kearney; Tommy Bowe, Brian O'Driscoll (captain), Gordon D'Arcy, Keith Earls; Ronan O'Gara, Conor Murray; Jamie Heaslip, Sean O'Brien, Stephen Ferris; Paul O'Connell, Donncha O'Callaghan; Mike Ross, Rory Best, Cian Healy. Replacements: Sean Cronin, Tom Court, Donnacha Ryan, Denis Leamy, Eoin Reddan, Jonathan Sexton, Andrew Trimble.
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swiss toni
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2011, 05:10:27 AM » |
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Both packs are as good as on another, I am particularly looking forward to watching O'brian, Ferrris and Heaslip, I believe wales have the edge behind the scrum but we have to keep handling errors to a minimum.
Once again the breakdown and the refereeing of this area will be the deciding factor, I'm feeling confident that wales will just scrape a win against the "old men".
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 03:11:59 PM » |
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With having a fully fit and functing squad to choose from, a luxury in the comp, the following players have been named to take on Ireland. Wales: Leigh Halfpenny, George North, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, Shane Williams, Rhys Priestland, Mike Phillips, Toby Faletau, Sam Warburton (c), Dan Lydiate, Alun-Wyn Jones, Luke Charteris, Adam Jones, Huw Bennett, Gethin Jenkins. Replacements: Lloyd Burns, Paul James, Bradley Davies, Ryan Jones, Lloyd Williams, James Hook, Scott Williams.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 03:42:18 AM » |
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Both packs are as good as on another, I am particularly looking forward to watching O'brian, Ferrris and Heaslip, I believe wales have the edge behind the scrum but we have to keep handling errors to a minimum.
This is the interpretation that is doing the rounds right now... but tis way too simplistic if you ask me. Modern backlines are not all about attacking speed and throwing the ball around like Fiji. In fact, if Wales have improved unrecognisably over the last year it is precisely because they are no longer playing that rather risky way. If they do return to that old strategy then I'd fancy Ireland to take this game rather more easily. But they won't. Ireland have led the way in the NH over the last few years by upping the defensive gameplay of the team as a whole BUT of the backline in particular. In the 6 nations, they conceded no tries to England, Scotland or Wales (if you exclude the blatantly illegal try that was awarded while the Irish players were standing around watching!) and only one to France. They've followed this up at the WC by conceding no tries to either Australia or Italy when it counted. This Irish talent for defense in the backline and their intensive work at the breakdown means that it is not as simple as Wales having the upper hand in the back-line just because they have the younger speedier runners. Wales have not yet proven themselves as being as capable of preventing tries. And one try may decide this game. Once again the breakdown and the refereeing of this area will be the deciding factor, I'm feeling confident that wales will just scrape a win against the "old men".
I agree and think that this area is really going to be crucial. I agree that in the scrum and up front the two packs will be pretty even. But they are most definitely NOT even in the two back rows. Wales will look to use Warburton as a disrupter and a natural fetcher. Meanwhile the "three backrows of the apocalypse" (borrowed this from a different rugby forum!) will seek to intimidate and bully Warburton around Irish ball and disrupt every single Welsh breakdown. Whichever way the Ref interprets this encounter will more or less decide the game. But, to reiterate the point, the Irish will no doubt be hoping that the Welsh are believing all the hype in the media at the moment and get carried away with themselve thinking they have yet another "New Lomu" in the backline. If they do that they won't focus on Ireland's true defensive weaknesses and may miss a trick by squandering important possession in crucial areas and at crucial times. Ireland by a one score (a one try game) win. (but not confident - I never am!!)  |
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 09:07:59 AM » |
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I'll be there and I'm greatly looking forward to it......
Will be a stonking game with a great atmoshphere and best of all, I will be completely impartial and won't suffer the normal anxiety that comes along with attending an All Balcks knock out game.....
the same applies for the SA v Aus game the following night that I will also be attending
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a supporter of Heartland rugby - Hawkes Bay, as well as the Canes and of course the ABs.
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swiss toni
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2011, 12:49:28 AM » |
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Both packs are as good as on another, I am particularly looking forward to watching O'brian, Ferrris and Heaslip, I believe wales have the edge behind the scrum but we have to keep handling errors to a minimum.
This is the interpretation that is doing the rounds right now... but tis way too simplistic if you ask me. Modern backlines are not all about attacking speed and throwing the ball around like Fiji. In fact, if Wales have improved unrecognisably over the last year it is precisely because they are no longer playing that rather risky way. If they do return to that old strategy then I'd fancy Ireland to take this game rather more easily. But they won't. Ireland have led the way in the NH over the last few years by upping the defensive gameplay of the team as a whole BUT of the backline in particular. In the 6 nations, they conceded no tries to England, Scotland or Wales (if you exclude the blatantly illegal try that was awarded while the Irish players were standing around watching!) and only one to France. They've followed this up at the WC by conceding no tries to either Australia or Italy when it counted. This Irish talent for defense in the backline and their intensive work at the breakdown means that it is not as simple as Wales having the upper hand in the back-line just because they have the younger speedier runners. Wales have not yet proven themselves as being as capable of preventing tries. And one try may decide this game. Once again the breakdown and the refereeing of this area will be the deciding factor, I'm feeling confident that wales will just scrape a win against the "old men".
I agree and think that this area is really going to be crucial. I agree that in the scrum and up front the two packs will be pretty even. But they are most definitely NOT even in the two back rows. Wales will look to use Warburton as a disrupter and a natural fetcher. Meanwhile the "three backrows of the apocalypse" (borrowed this from a different rugby forum!) will seek to intimidate and bully Warburton around Irish ball and disrupt every single Welsh breakdown. Whichever way the Ref interprets this encounter will more or less decide the game. But, to reiterate the point, the Irish will no doubt be hoping that the Welsh are believing all the hype in the media at the moment and get carried away with themselve thinking they have yet another "New Lomu" in the backline. If they do that they won't focus on Ireland's true defensive weaknesses and may miss a trick by squandering important possession in crucial areas and at crucial times. Ireland by a one score (a one try game) win. (but not confident - I never am!!) Some good points, also the lineout which Wales have struggled with against Ireland in the past could be another problem for Wales, as for the breakdown I can't see the back row being intimidated by anybody, they just won't have the time! Two other things to consider 1. Many of the senior Irish players will be having their last shot at glory. 2. The welsh team has taken a quantum leap in terms of performance particularly mental strength and belief. We could go on and on, anyway better to go out to Ireland than the dwarf throwing shandy drinking chamber maid stalking shower of shit that is england. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2011, 04:02:07 AM » |
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Some good points, also the lineout which Wales have struggled with against Ireland in the past could be another problem for Wales, as for the breakdown I can't see the back row being intimidated by anybody, they just won't have the time!
Two other things to consider 1. Many of the senior Irish players will be having their last shot at glory.
2. The welsh team has taken a quantum leap in terms of performance particularly mental strength and belief.
We could go on and on, anyway better to go out to Ireland than the dwarf throwing shandy drinking chamber maid stalking shower of shit that is england.
Agreed tis on a knife edge.... a hair's breadth... or whatever other cliche you want to use. But If the welsh manage to side-step their way past us tomorrow, I can't see me cheering for anyone else (well maybe the french if they actually start playing some rugby). Good luck to Wales tomorrow... * *I don't mean it! ** **... just kidding *** ***not really!  |
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Geeves
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2011, 10:20:36 AM » |
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I'll be there and I'm greatly looking forward to it......
Will be a stonking game with a great atmoshphere and best of all, I will be completely impartial and won't suffer the normal anxiety that comes along with attending an All Balcks knock out game.....
the same applies for the SA v Aus game the following night that I will also be attending
Enjoy the games. Any chance of a match report? |
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2011, 10:22:00 AM » |
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megweya
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2011, 02:34:16 PM » |
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I'll be there Argghhhhhhh & +k Jealousy & Respect enough to fill the Cake Tin Enjoy seeing in the flesh the Tullow Tank (SOB), the Exocet corner-kicks of ROG, and the BOD-on-Earth that is Brian O'Driscoll. Give a few cheers for me Megweya |
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Donnacha: "God grant me the serenity to accept things that I cannot change . . ."
Reflecting later: "It meant the world to me, but I took no satisfaction from the way we won it.
I would have rather been on our own line, defending like dogs. I didn't want to celebrate Stephen Jones missing a kick"
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megweya
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Flawed 6N - like the old days, just beat Eng!
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2011, 02:59:27 PM » |
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The (very good) Irish rugby blogger Drop22 summed it up for me a few weeks ago on the day before the first game of RWC 2011 - he said "It's CHRISTMAS EVE"
I'm 52
and feel 12 years old
- I'll be up at 5.30 UK time to get ready (I might get up at 5.00 and watch some YouTube BOD, SOB, ROG, Tommy Tommy Tommy Bowe videos)
(and I might yet stay up all night - there are four years to sleep before Ireland have the chance to get to the semi-final)
Cheers
Megweya
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Donnacha: "God grant me the serenity to accept things that I cannot change . . ."
Reflecting later: "It meant the world to me, but I took no satisfaction from the way we won it.
I would have rather been on our own line, defending like dogs. I didn't want to celebrate Stephen Jones missing a kick"
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megweya
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Flawed 6N - like the old days, just beat Eng!
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2011, 03:44:50 PM » |
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+k to any (non-Irish) namers of the 3 old-stagers in the middle of the bottom-row attached
+2k to anyone who can name 4 of the games shown.
CHEERS
MEGWEYA!!
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Donnacha: "God grant me the serenity to accept things that I cannot change . . ."
Reflecting later: "It meant the world to me, but I took no satisfaction from the way we won it.
I would have rather been on our own line, defending like dogs. I didn't want to celebrate Stephen Jones missing a kick"
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swiss toni
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2011, 06:53:42 PM » |
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HT 10-3 Ireland have tried everything and come up short, Just hope england win to keep the dream alive.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2011, 07:46:20 PM » |
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Brilliant a win win against a very good Irish side.
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